Fandom/Ship Clarification Post #1

[idficmod]

Reminders
- Remember to disambiguate all nominations with the full or abbreviated canon name.
- Please properly capitalize your nominations, including both character names and canon names in disambiguations.
- Do not use piping in nominations.
- Crossover ships need to be nominated under "Crossover Fandom."

Queries

Legend of Korra: Suyin Beifong & the Earth Kingdom(LoK)
What does "earth kingdom" entail? A sentient location? Any resident of Earth Kingdom? Specific people?

Coming Out on Top: Mark Matthews/Beau Melnick/Bradley "Brad" Melnick/Roman/the Orlin College men's football team (COoT)
Every member of the football team? Current members?

Kingsman: Gary "Eggsy" Unwin and Kingsman Support Staff (Kingsman Movies)
A specific group of canon characters? Original support staff character(s)?

Danny Phantom
There are several DCU/Danny Phantom crossover ships nominated under Danny Phantom. Please nominate these under the fandom "Crossover Fandom" instead.

Leverage (US TV 2008): Team Leverage & Harry Wilson (Leverage)
Is Team Leverage a defined group in canon?

A Song of Ice and Fire & Related Fandoms
Do not nominate under "& Related Fandoms." Please nominate under a more specific fandom.

Earth Girl Series - Janet Edwards: Jarra Tell Morrath & Beta Sector (Earth Girl Series), Jarra Tell Morrath & Tell Clan (Earth Girl Series)
Are Beta Sector and Tell Clan a specific group or person? Can they be defined more specifically?

A Practical Guide to Evil - erraticerrata: Catherine Foundling & the people of Callow (APGTE)
"The people of Callow" is very broad, please be more specific.

Dark (TV 2017): Noah/Noah (Dark)
Is this two canon characters, or a request for selfcest?

Crossover Fandom: Lt Columbo (Columbo) & Batfamily Members (DCU)
Please be more specific; "Batfamily Members" is not a defined group.

Crossover Fandom: Lt Columbo (Columbo) & The Roy Family (Succession)
Everyone in the Roy family? Specific members?

Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure (Cartoon): Separatists of Saporia & Varian (Tangled); Separatists of Saporia/Varian (Tangled); The Brotherhood & Varian (Tangled)
Are the Separatists of Saporia and The Brotherhood specific groups of characters?

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (TV): Agents of SHIELD Team & Lincoln Campbell (AoS); Hive & Lincoln Campbell (AoS); HYDRA & Lincoln Campbell (AoS)
Is the Agents of SHIELD Team a specific group of characters?

Pocket Monsters | Pokemon (Main Video Game Series): Anthro!Obstagoon/Piers (PKMN MVGS)
What is meant by "anthro" here?

Our Flag Means Death: Crew of the Revenge & Israel Hands (OFMD); Crew of the Revenge/Israel Hands (OFMD)
Too broad of a group; please be more specific.

Remove piping from the following fandoms:
Bodies (TV 2023)
镇魂 | Guardian (TV 2018)
Once Upon a Time (TV)
僕のヒーローアカデミア | Boku no Hero Academia | My Hero Academia (Anime & Manga)
The Silmarillion and other histories of Middle-Earth - J. R. R. Tolkien
Empires SMP
Gothic (1986)
Pocket Monsters | Pokemon (Main Video Game Series)

Comments

[withthekeyisking]

Hello! Tangled & Agents of SHIELD nominator here.

The Brotherhood is a specific group that has only 4 members in it: https://tangled.fandom.com/wiki/The_Brotherhood
The Separatists of Saporia is a specific group that has only 5 members in it: https://tangled.fandom.com/wiki/Separatists_of_Saporia

For the "Agents of SHIELD" group, that's a broader group (more people in and out through the series) but I didn't care much about a specific season just the SHIELD Team in general. Because the Team itself IS defined in the show, like fans would be able to list the people on the Team, there are just a fair amount of members.
For the "Hive" tag, Hive is only one person: https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Hive

[(Anonymous)]

Just fyi, a bunch of the Baldur's Gate nominations are also showing up under Dungeons & Dragons (Roleplaying Game), if that's something to be concerned about.

[flowersforgraves]

Thanks for the heads up! (I'm a tag minion but not a mod)

[(Anonymous)]

Nominator for “The Silmarillion and other histories of Middle-Earth - J. R. R. Tolkien” —- sorry, I can’t see any piping?

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry can someone explain what piping is?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm the 僕のヒーローアカデミア | Boku no Hero Academia | My Hero Academia (Anime & Manga) and Pocket Monsters | Pokemon (Main Video Game Series) nomimator if that helps

[(Anonymous)]

It's the vertical line that separates the different names of a character, so, between "Shouta" and "Eraserhead" in this example: Aizawa Shouta | Eraserhead

You can decide which name you'd like to use, so nominate tags as e.g. "Aizawa Shouta & Shinsou Hitoshi (BNHA)" or as "Eraserhead & Shinsou Hitoshi (BNHA)". Then just hit enter even though the AO3 dropdown menu might offer the regular tag as an option.

[(Anonymous)]

OH! Okay, good to know! Thank you, I'll make sure to fix this today.

[(Anonymous)]

Glad I could help!

[(Anonymous)]

I've cleared up the piping I'm pretty sure! Please let me know if any got missed.

Earth Girl nominations

[(Anonymous)]

I’m the nominator for the Tell Clan tag. The Tell Clan is a specific group of people yes, kind of like a very extended family unit. It could be defined more specifically as Tell Clan Members maybe?

I didn’t nominate the Beta sector tag, but it could reasonably be compared to a country with its own culture. I’m not sure how that could be made more specific, sorry

Re: Earth Girl nominations

[morbane]

As another Earth Girl reader - are you looking for something like Original Citizen(s) of Beta Sector?

Re: Earth Girl nominations

[(Anonymous)]

That could be what the nominator was looking for

Re: Earth Girl nominations

[(Anonymous)]

Original nominator here. Yeah, that would work for me

Re: Earth Girl nominations

[(Anonymous)]

Tell clan members would be fine. But yeah. Its basically a family, so I‘m not sure how to narrow that down further

[(Anonymous)]

Not the nominator, but Team Leverage, in the 2008 version of the show, is always defined as Nate Ford, Sophie Devereaux, Eliot Spencer, Alec Hardison, and Parker unless temporary substitutions are specified.

[(Anonymous)]

As the nominator for the Team Leverage & Harry Wilson tag, I actually did intend it differently. Nonny listed the OG Team Leverage crew (from the 2008-2012) episodes but I thought it was pretty well-understood within the fandom that when combined with Harry, "Team Leverage" implies the Leverage: Redemption crew from the episodes that aired in 2021 onward (which includes Harry Wilson instead of Nate Ford, and also features Breanna Casey).

There's no consistent differentiation between these in how the fandom uses the tag on AO3, but if you want to be granular about what I intend to request, something like "Team Leverage: Redemption Crew & Harry Wilson" would perhaps be more accurate.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, my mistake.

Empires SMP

[(Anonymous)]

I nominated the Empires SMP relationships with piping, because they’re the canonical versions. I’d be happy to remove the piping if that is prioritized over using canonical tags, just let me know which is preferred

Re: Empires SMP

[flowersforgraves]

I'm not a mod for this event, just helping out with tag approvals, but generally, nomination guidelines for any event are always going to take precedence over canonical tags.

[morbane]

I'm not the nominator, but for "Kingsman: Gary "Eggsy" Unwin and Kingsman Support Staff (Kingsman Movies)" - no, there is no specific group of support staff. I'd be hard pressed to identify any actual character who appears on screen in this category [the guy in the train tracks scene in the first movie??]. I hope you hear back from the nominator about their preferences, but if you don't, "Original Kingsman Support Staff Character(s)" probably works best.

[tabitabi]

Hello!

Edit: saw the tags with (One Piece) were approved so I edited my noms!

I've nominated One Piece ships for both the live action and the manganime. I nommed the Live Action ships following the disambiguation already in the tagset: Character A/Character B (One Piece Live Action in the One Piece (Live Action TV 2023) fandom. I nommed the Manganime ones as Character A/Character B (One Piece A&M) in the One Piece (Anime & Manga) fandom...but I've just noticed that there were already approved Character A/Character B (One Piece) tags (different ships from mine) in the unassociated tags. Mine haven't been approved yet; should I edit them to Character A/Character B (One Piece) instead of Character A/Character B (One Piece A&M) before approval to avoid confusion?

Thank you for running this event!

Coming Out on Top

[lleullawgyffes]

hello! I’m the Coming Out on Top nominator. I’m not sure I understand the point of confusion, though, so I’m not sure how to clarify. my intention (and how I would read the tag if I encountered it as a prompt) was to indicate Mark/Beau/Brad/Roman/an unspecified number of other members of the Orlin College football team (aside from Beau, Brad, and Roman, who are also members). does that help at all?

Re: Coming Out on Top

[flowersforgraves]

Not the mod but a tag minion. Would "Mark Matthews/Beau Melnick/Bradley "Brad" Melnick/Roman/Any Other Orlin Football Players (COoT)" work for you? It's more a question of trying to make it narrow enough so creators don't feel like they need to include every single member of the team.

Re: Coming Out on Top

[lleullawgyffes]

yes, that would work! maybe make it "Player(s)" just to give as much flexibility as possible.

[dontstophernow]

For the Columbo ones, would these be more acceptable? To me, Batfamily members does mean a fairly well known group in DCU fandom, even if it's not a canon distinction, but I've tried to clarify to a more canonically defined set of characters.

Lt Columbo (Columbo) & Batman & Any Current or Former Robins (DCU)

Lt Columbo (Columbo) & Any Roy Family Members (Succession)

[flowersforgraves]

Approving both with those changes!

[(Anonymous)]

Would these changes work?

Legend of Korra: Suyin Beifong & any native resident of the earth Kingdom(LoK)

A Practical Guide to Evil - erraticerrata: Catherine Foundling & any citizen of the kingdom of Callow(APGTE)

[flowersforgraves]

not a mod but helping with tags; yes, those work well!

[swingandswirl]

Hi! I'm the Kingsman nominator, and yes, I meant original character support staff, sorry. I'm interested in the background characters who make the agents' missions possible.

Once Upon a Time and Tangled

[(Anonymous)]

I'm the Once Upon a Time Tangeled nominator I cleaned up the piping for it and Rapunzel/Eugene Fitzherbert

Dark (2017) Noms

[(Anonymous)]

Nominator for the Dark fandom here—the Noah/Noah request is technically a request for selfcest (similar to the Jonas Kahnwald/Jonas Kahnwald tag). Time travel is the show’s genre, so there are several times when the characters interact with tangible versions of their older or younger selves. Hopefully this helps clarify!